Re: [[nukkad] Your suggestion on avoidance of illicit sex]

[Sandeep Budhrani <>]

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Hello Rajababu.

Hope this finds you well.
I am replying to your mail directed to Sundeep, and Sundeep if you too want to
discuss, kindly send a mail to Rajababu with a cc to nukkie.

2) What is illicit sex? 
Answer: As mentioned earlier, illicit sex is that which is outside marriage.

3)In India, there are many documented cases of women being taken to bed by
their husbands, when they dont want sex. In fact, Shri HKL Bhagat had
publicly scoffed at the idea of a woman saying no to sex. He asked "How does
it matter?" That's the level of 'illicit sex' for you in India.
Answer:IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT SEX, WHAT WE NEED TO SEE IS
WHAT SCRIPTURES MENTION ABOUT THE SAME!

5)Lets start being practical. Having sex is not a sin, but
having an unwanted child out of this alliance is.
Answer: Lets start by talking moral. The scriptures say that having sex is not
a sin, so long as it is not illicit sex (outside marriage) and definately it
must not be a forced sex(refer your point no.3)

6) Again, let us all remember that all of us cant throw away our children
like Kunti did
Answer:your statement of throwing away "Karan" does not reflect well on your
part. If you are not aware of the reason, do not make public comments like
these. You should know the background before making statments and comparing
situations.
For your information, Queen Kunti was chaste and she just wanted to test the
power of the mantra which she had got as a boon and so she chanted it which
invoked the sun god, thereby she got Karan and do not compare this situation
with children got after having sex.
Rajababu, my sincere suggestion to you is NOT to talk about things, speacially
religious of which you have little knowledge!

7)We can't wish away Cable TV and the reels and books of endless nudity
being doled out to Kids of ages starting from 6 onwards
Answer: yes, but we have the choice whether to see and let our children see
such obscene scenes. That is the biggest difference between human and all
other species. The intelligence is most developed in us and we are given
independence to do so many things!

Regards


Sandeep



"rajababu" <rajababu@im.eth.net> wrote:
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Dear Sir,

1) Read your suggestion on avoidance of illicit sex as a birth control
measure.
2) What is illicit sex? In England, a lady can sue her hubby for raping her.
Means that if she doesnt want to have sex with him, but he insists on it,
then he can be arrested for 'raping her'.
3) In India, there are many documented cases of women being taken to bed by
their husbands, when they dont want sex. In fact, Shri HKL Bhagat had
publicly scoffed at the idea of a woman saying no to sex. He asked "How does
it matter?" That's the level of 'illicit sex' for you in India.
4) I wonder why no body is talking about contraceptives. This is not the 50'
or the 60's. Teenagers including school children have sex. College students
also are no exception. this being the case, there is a clear need for higher
usage of contraceptives.
5) let not anybody pretend that "It just happened" like in the Hindi films,
where Rajesh Khanna and Sharmila sit before the fire and then suddenly she
becomes pregnant. Lets start being practical. Having sex is not a sin, but
having an unwanted child out of this alliance is.
6) Again, let us all remember that all of us cant throw away our children
like Kunti did. We have to live with it.
7) We can't wish away Cable TV and the reels and books of endless nudity
being doled out to Kids of ages starting from 6 onwards. Now nobody can turn
the clock back. Nobody can wish away the senseless wet saree scenes and the
silly rape scenes which throng our equally senseless Hindi movies.
8) I realise I am opening a can of worms, but it will intrduce a healthy
debate.
9) Also, after 1 or 2 kids, vasectomy and hysterectomy should be accepted by
all males and females. have as much fun as you like but see that it doesnt
get 'billed'.

Best regards,
Rajababu







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