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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- What we need is either less corruption, or more chance to participate in it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shree Joshi wrote: Guptaji, What is this secularism ? Please define that first. ======================================================================= 1. Secularism is a western concept. There is no probably word in Indian languages that approximates the meaning of secularism as usd in English. 2. In the west, there was repressive dominance of the Church over political, social and academic life. [Refer: Galileo's persecution and prosecution for saying that earth revolves around the sun]. This continued till the renaissance. At that time, the concept gained ground that the Church and the religion should play only a peripheral role in the lives of individuals and the nations, with there being freedom of thought and action without inhibitions imposed by the Church. This concept was called secularism. It meant that the state should have nothing to do with religion. 3. Indian scene has been diferent. there has never been societal and governmental slavery to religion. As a matter of fact, there has not been a Hindu religion as such, but, rather, a Hindu philosophy. This deep philosophy has been of a scolarly level, permitting intense academic discussions of divergent thoughts, a uniform thread in all these diverse streams [vaisnavism, shaivism, shakti cult, Buddhism, Jainism etc.] being deep sense of spirituality. In India, even there has been no term for religion as understood in the west. Dharma, often used as equivalent to religion, has, in fact, a sense of rules and regulations and a code of conduct which, using the modern legal terminology, might be somewhat akin to natural law. In India, there has been a long tradition of believing that the ultimate goal is spiritual salvation, the means to attain which may be different such as jewism, christianity, islam, hinduism etc. Thus Hindus do not see islam or christianity as radically different from Hinduism. India is the only country in the world where all major religions thrive and are practised freely by different people. 4. In summary, secularism might have two meanings. The first is non-indulgence by the state in religion. This is the western concept. The second is equal respect for all religions. This is the Indian concept. 5. The western concept is OK for westerners, where Christianity is built around love, tolerance, penance and the Holy Trinity. The church stiffled society in the west, forcing a reactionary move to confine the clergy to the four walls of the church, denying them interference in the affairs of the individuals and the state. so, it had to be restrained. Such situation never came to pass in India. 6. The Indian concept of sarva-dharma-samabhava [equal respect for all religions]does not need any constitutional dictates because it is already well and deeply ingrained in Indian culture. 7. Summary--- India differs fundamentally from the west in the sense that spirituality is a basic part of Indian culture, the means to attain which is through hinduism, islam, buddhism, jainism, christianity etc. A government of the people, by the people, for the people, has to be alive to the deep aspirations and culture of the people. So, in India, the western concept of secularism can not be applied in practice. The indian counterpart of equal respect for all religions has been part of Indian tradition, much before the west ot their common law concepts came into being. MC Gupta ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, use the form at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/#options This list is archived at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/archive.html
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