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Re: [nukkad] hinduism



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Rawat wrote:
> > It is the craving of a learner that reveals the meanings that he requires. it is said "when the student is ready, the teacher will  appear".

Anna Morawska wrote:
> I was away for a few days, thus this delayed reaction. "it is said" - who by? Where?

> This statement has really intrigued me. And I think it is very much true[in fact, it's also my experience - as a learner].

That is really a very deep insight. First it appears totally
opposite of what is generally held that a teacher brings up a
student. But on thinking deep, it appears so simple and so true.

A teacher, a book, any teaching aid is, of course, just an aid.

A book is read by millions, each getting affected in his/ her own
way by the book. Several do not get affected by it at all.

A teacher teaches the same thing to the entire class of students,
and mostly year after year, yet each person grows into a totally
different individual. Some don't grow at all. Several also grow
astray.

Dawood Abraham, Sharad Pawar, bala saheb all from maharashtra
must have got more or less the same education, but they are so
different from each other.

There is a book I have "not" read (too costly to buy, pirated one
not available), but its title is provocative "IF YOU FIND BUDDHA
ON THE ROAD, KILL HIM".

The author argues that no one can teach you anything. You have to
learn it yourself, bu your own introspection, meditation and
experiences in your natural growth. Thus, any outside teacher,
the BUDDHA, can only meddle up with your natural growth by
teaching the things from outside. Thus kill him to avoid this,
and grow naturally by your own efforts. Peculiar. I don't totally
agree with it, not at all with the provocative title, yet there
is some truth.

A few weeks ago, there was a discussion on books, and probably
you or Ragini ji had said that she reads the same book after some
time and finds new meanings in it.

The book has not changed. It is the mind of the reader that has
changed and the reader is ready for new insights popping up from
the same words and phrases. That is the awareness of words,
phrases, sentences, paragraphs, books. Probably AMEER ji had said
that the person has changed in the meantime.

When awareness interacts with awareness, miracle occurs.

One can provide whatever external input, but the student has to
be ready to accept that input and process it.

As long as it is skill oriented, a person can go through the
motion or cycle driving or swimming, and he will acquire that.

As long as it is memory oriented, a person will mug it up and
spit in the exam room, and will get passed, maybe come top.

But whatever is knowledge oriented things are there, they need
efforts of a person to process it on his awareness. Only then he
grows.

For that makers, jokes or daily one-row comic strip in newspaper
or magazine are also something that need to be processed by
awareness. Several people don't even get a joke. I myself have to
put efforts to understand some of the comic strips. Some never
made sense to me. But that is when the AHA experience comes to
AMEER ji, when it starts making sense, and you smile or laugh at
a joke or a comic.

I often think of the things that I had done or ommitted doing 10,
15, 20 years ago. And I realise how wrong I was, then comes the
feeling of guilt.

Those comatosed witnesses of the raped girl will one day realise
how wrong their inaction was. They will realise what a useless
and shameful life they had bought by remaining silence. They will
realise that they should have done whatever to stop it, even if
their life had gone in that. Then they can't escape the guilt.

-Rawat


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