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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- drtv: >đsome practical way outs develop in course of time in any society. it will be wrong to attribute this to the tradition and culture. = What else to call it then? If prevailing - is it not a kind of tradition..? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ they are aberations, should be temporary before a social reform sets it right. +++ 'Temporary' means how long? ********************************************************* > the sastras may say the male is superior to females --------- If the sastras do so, they sanction it as a tradition, do they not..? drtv: Ľre, yes! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ it was "sure, yes" +++ The conclusion, then, is that tradition ranks men higher than women and this status should not be changed, out of respect for the tradition... But, on the other hand, if "where women shed tears gods do not reside", perhaps there is something to be done..? ************************** > is to say that a marriage is to propagate ones lineage and also to do ones dharma. a man who has lost his wife loses this right. => Is this all that marriage is for..? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ drtv: according to sastras, yes. +++ If something goes beyond shastras, is it considered wrong? but if you analyse " to do dharma" lot of things are covered in it. +++ I must ask for help here. I know the term very vaguely. *********************************************** drtv: ~ll, the attitude is the girl was born for him and since she has been looked after by the father, a small token to compensate ..... => The girl was born for herself, was looked after mostly by her mother, and is to live her own live not to operate according to the programme. Is mine a strange point of view, typical of underdeveloped tribes living inthe far North-West..? ; )) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ drtv: it seems to be a different view. +++ It does. And it is. perhaps more in tune with modern times. +++ Well, perhaps... By the way, what marks the beginning of modern times..? i shall not enter any argument re the validity. +++ I wonder if it is possible at all to discuss the validity of a view in general terms. There is the one who speaks it out, the one who just listens, and the one who the view refers to. Each will have different perspective and different criteria for validity... we are talking about indian traditions here. +++ Yes, but what started the discussion was the conclusion that Indian women are not very happy about some of them. Well. as a foreigner I may be considered not the right person to have such observations... But still, I do. ******************************************** drtv: > it is no big deal to sail along with these idiosyncrasies. just a little tact and some determination, in my mind is the recipe. ------------- If on both sides, yes it is. : )) drtv: greed! => For WHAT?! ; ))) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ drtv: oh god, great became greed. i think the culprit here was the spell checker. so i say again great! +++ The first span of a bridge between the cultures..? : )) Phir milengey, Anna. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Portal INTERIA.PL zaprasza... >>> http://link.interia.pl/f16ab ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To join/leave, use the form at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/#options This list is archived at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/archive.html
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