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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. -Thomas Edison, inventor (1847-1931) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- samridhi bokadia wrote: Yeah i doesn't disagree that their are some madarsas which teach extremism but by this you can't blame all of them. Yeah, we can't blame all of them. --------------- Samridhi : Secondly about the Gujrat incident it is now clear that Mr Modi was responsible for that who's intention were clear to broke the brotheship of muslims & hindus.In my view he should be chanlenge in the court. He is a killer. If you would give me the vakalat, I would start working on it right away! :)))))))) -------------- Samridhi: in India its just an excuse about the security, in my view its the complete failure of our security agencies. Okay! Let us close our eyes to ISI. That should force ISI to go away! ----------------- Samridhi: The muslims organization r held responsible for the attacks in Kashmir then why not the people of Kashmir should be given chance to decide their fate Didn't you hear about the Kashmir elections of 2002? The elections were held under international media glare and despite terrorist threats, people did participate in the election in large numbers. Or do you believe that will of the people expressed through ballot does not count and that only the will expressed through the barrel of gun counts? _________________________________________ Samridhi: Just answer why our jawans of Indian Army cant be able to just stop cross border terrorism? we blame Pakistan for that but why cant u people just gunned them down how they can cross the LOC? i can't understand about 9lakh 900000 security forces are deployed their , Perhaps you are thinking that the 'Line of Control' is a line like the one I drew above. I won't advise you to go to Kashmir to see the terrain along the LOC because of the risk of your getting killed by the poor unarmed 'Kashmiri patriots'. But I would advise you to get a good physical map of Kashmir showing the mountain ranges etc. If you had played hide and seek in your childhood, you will know why 900000 security forces are unable to 'seal' the LOC. It requires a small effort from you though. Remove the colour glasses of prejudice from your eyes. --------------------- Samridhi: i my view its not the foreigners terrorist who come there to fight and why they come since they know they cant conquerer Kashmir & cant be able to fight are army its the local people of Kashmir who are forced to take guns in thier hands by are worst behaviour towards them, burning thier houses ,exploiting thier womens,rude behaviour towards children and old people what is this just destruction nothing else. Just by kicking Pakistan these BJP's make us happy but till kab tak we clap on these same speches again & again. It is a pity that your antipathy towards BJP is clouding your judgment on security operations. I would like to know the sources of your information. There may have been isolated incidents of the type you mentioned but I can't believe that they are so wide-spread as you make it out to be. Had it been so wide-spread, all Kashmiris would have been wiped out during 12 years of security operations in Kashmir. Even when their colleagues, women and children are killed in housing complexes / buses etc. by Terrorists, the security forces have displayed remarkable restraint. An indiscipline force would have gone on rampage in Kashmir on the face of such provocation. ------------------------ Samridhi: Indian govt expenses for defence are just rising Aren't your expenses rising every year? If you adjust the defence expenses to inflation and exchange rate of rupee, you will find that the increase is not all that substantial. ------------------ Samridhi: and we are neglecting our people i just heard today about some village near Orissa which was promised to have thier water & new projects late down in NOV 2002 till now they haven't receieved a 0% of that promise. Here, I agree with you. But the way you put it, it almost implies that security expenses are somehow responsible for it. That is not correct. Our people are getting a raw deal from the politicians and bureaucrats. ----------------------- Samridhi: Their is no need to test new missile why we are doing that just to become nuclear power but for what Pakistan never ever be able to compete us then why to invest money in the destruction of Humanity are religion (Hinduism) doesn't teach that. I know it is MAD(Mutually Assured Destruction), but in a mad world, one has to be prepared to take on the mad elements. I too don't like Nuclear Bombs, Missiles or even guns, but I recognize that in the present political environment of the world, these may be unavoidable. --------------------- In the end its my humble request to all of u members of "nukkad" to just open your eyes and be with the right one's and work for the betterment of our beloved country India and above all for the humanity their sholud be no discrimation. I know its difficult to implement but not impossible and we can do that. Amen. ------------------------ Last of all iam sorry if some text written above hurt someone's feeling i know we can't accept these words as Indian but as humans we should regards Samridhi as Priyanka You have plenty of ideas but all of them are not lovable. V.K.Venugopal ----------------------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom/which they are addressed. 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