Re: [nukkad] Fwd: [wp] *Religion and Reason

["Milind Sathe" <>]

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Hi,
    Where do you get all these satires on science. No disrespect. I fully
respect those who believe in God and Religion etc.. although I dont. But it
pains to see me that people, like, this writer(I dont knoe who it is) seem
to be forced to refere to science to fortify their religious views. But say
things which marrs science and has nothing to do with science. It is a way
to fool people into their views.
    Yes, by all means discuss and talk about telepathy, ESP and all the
pseudo science. But time and again I have found that these guys just pass or
push some references. Then I think it becomes a controversial, and
unscientific publication.
    This is what I call 'Preachers of Pseudosciences with unscientific
references to science'. Watch how it is done. This is a classic example :

See here : Read my comments in [milind] tags

 CIBA Foundation held a symposium
> and published a monograph by this very title in the sixties]. There is
some
> evidence that elephants can communicate through infrared waves emitted
from
> their forehead; that whales communicate through ultrasonic waves; that
some
> humans are receptive to magnetic waves;

[milind] Agreed, these are unexplained phenomenon but there have been some
observations indicating these things. Hard observations. And the way it
works is science tries to explain these observations. Some they still cant
but some they explain eventually. But till then the observations are
recorded as unexplained observations after the scientific community confirms
that these observations are true observations. So talking about these with
reference to scientific symposium is good and understandable. And till here
it was an interesting piece. [milind]

that some persons have property of divining water;
[milind] But now read this statement. 'Some persons have divining water'.
'Diving water' ????? Now read the statements around it, after it and you
will know what I am trying to convey.
[milind]

that some persons have power of telepathy and clarvoyance;
> etc. These phenomenon, if scientifically well documented, can not be
wished
> away for want of explanatory mechanism. Such mechanisms would unfold as
and
> when newer sensory phenomena get established through further scienific
> research. But there is a catch. Some real phenomena may never be
> scientifically proven, because the very proces of observational
measurement
> alters the phenomenon itself! That is the limit of science where, in the
> face of documented facts, science has to yeild to faith.
>
> Reincarnation is currently in a stage where the phenomenon is documented,
> but the mechanism is not.

[milind] and this : can Mr. Gupta or author of this article, please explain
what observations with respect to reincarnation can really be scientific
observations which can be agreed upon as valid observations from the entire
scientific community???
[milind]

Cheers
Milind



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