Re: Death by Penalty-- views of Homi and Venugpal

["Mahesh chandra Gupta" <>]

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I do not know what is all this jumping of Karma.My understanding, based on
standard Hindu texts and modern sciece  is as follows:

1. We can not always see reality. Rather, reality is often obscured by what
is merely apparent but not real. Science today agrees that there are limits
to scientific observation and measurement. Certain phenomena are beyond
observation because the process of scientific observation changes the
phenomenon itself. There are other reasons why science can not observe. At a
basic level, our observational instruments may yet be too crude.

2. There is enough evidence for rebirth today. Prof. Pasricha at NIMHANS,
Bangalore has worked and published on this for last 20 years.

3. The phenomenon of rebirth axiomatically presupposes the idea of life
after death. A Being exists even after death, only because he does not cease
to exist after the death of the physical body.

4. It is classical Hindy knowledge, including Gita, that there are 3 types
of bodies a man has. These are the sthool sharir [physical body], Sukhsma
sharir and the karan sharir. Once the atman is able to get rid of these 3
sharirs, only then it can attach to or mingle with the Paramatman. So called
death or shedding of body, occurs thrice. Once we are able to attain a
certain level of spiritual refinement, only then are we able to get rid of
this cycle of birth and death of the physical body. Then we live in the
Sukhshma body stage. Once we attain further spiritual refinement, we shed
this stage and live in the Karan sharir form. Further development enables
the atman to get out of this also and attain the final salvation, ie, mingle
with god.

5. Since the above might appear too bizarre, almost a concoction, to the lay
reader, I want to mention here, in all humility, my background. Just to show
that I have serious academic credentials and would not have written the
above unless there was some basis for this. I am MD in internal medicine,
also LL.B, [doing LL.M.], have been Additional Professor at AIIMS, Delhi,
and have been Professor at NIHFW, Delhi.

6. The phenomenon of Sukhshma sharir is well documented in Raymond Mody's
Life after Death, which was a best seller for many weeks about 15 years ago.
Dr. Mody was a Ph.d. Psychology, who later got his MD.

7. The phenomenon of rebirth is very well documented by a professor and Head
of Psychiatry in University of Miami, Florida. He wrote this book about 5-6
years ago and I read it 2 years ago. I forget the name. May be those in USA
can help in tracing this. He was able to get his subjects to regress to past
several lives, even upto 1000 years ago, through psychoanalysis under
hypnosis.

8.. I do not get the concept of jumping of Karma. In the scheme of things
outlined above, it is clear that though we leave behind the physical body
which is burnt or buried, the sukhshma sharir, containing all our Karma,
continues to exist. When we are reborn, that Sukhshma sharir, with all its
Karma, again gets into a physical body

9. The aim of man's life is to get rid of all the karma. Only then can he
attain salvation or nirvana or mingling with the Supreme. Gita tells how to
get rid of karma.

Hope the above clarifies certain points.

MC Gupta


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