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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tip of the day: Prune messages that you are forwarding or replying to include only the relevant material. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- sai wrote, <<Sadly, the Gujarat incidents have not left us with the ability to thump our chests and say 'Muslims and Hindus are equal here'.>> very true -- hindus were always the opressed n tormented as the gujrat incidents have proven. retaliation after the mercyless massacring of 57 innocent including women n children is causing embarrasment to people like u but again overlooked the fact that the retaliation was in very small proportions to what would have happened in any other country. also u completely neglect the other aspects like the third of the dead are hindus n half as many hindus are in refugee camps as muslims.instead of putting it as a "national calamity" that affected both communities and started by the muslims u have put it as a case of "hindu opression" which is excatly the opposite.this was a typical "english-media" type statement that was made and such things serve no purpose but increase the divide amongst indians and malign our name in the international community for no reason at all. why unecessarily bloat things n that too against oneself.have u ever heard of any bangladeshi leader say "there is no rights for hindus" even after "ten times" the number affected in gujrat are systematically tortured there.it is only here that even after such pampering do people feel the need to pamper more n also make such self-defeating statements. absolutely right "hindus are never equal" they r the inferior weaklings whose feelings and lives can be tampered with on other peoples whims and fancies n they must not even speak out. u also wrote <<It seems to be a sentiment. Nehru, having come from J&K, decided that it is an integral part of India and that we must have it. For this reason alone>> <<Of course nowadays the song has changed a little. They want the Kashmiris to determine their own destiny.>> not really - - pakistanis invaded kashmir using its tribal afridis in 1947 when the king hari singh had decided for independence -- it was then that he asked for india's intervention -- as usual the pakis lost n after that kashmiri's thought that indias secular agenda was more favourable to the sufi tradition of kashmir as compared to pakis fanatic culture.this is proven by the fact that indian presence was approved even by the national conference(sheikh abdulla) headed by muslims they now want kashmir to determine its own destiny but then who is going to take the opinion of the 3 lkh hindus driven out from there. they want themto determine their own destiny only after making sure that hindus have been forced out,kashmiris have been brainwashed n the buddhists in ladakh are sidelined. what kind of self determination is this when a big chunk of the original population has been driven out or sidelined.no plebicite no referendum until all pundits return back n article 370 is removed. -- - akshay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, use the form at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/#options This list is archived at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/archive.html
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