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Re: [nukkad] Communists in Government Cynthia's concerns



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Ref: Mean Drake wrote:

I sometimes wonder why the image of a prisoner with underwear over his head
arouses more sympathy from some than a movie of a civilian with no head at
all. 

I say all this not cos I am pro-american BUT because I would like to see
things from an unbiased outsiders viewpoint.

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1.      The image of a prisoner with underwear over his head
arouses more sympathy and anger because it is testimony tp perverse
and depraved and continuingly and persistently demeaning mwentality of
a supposedly enlightened people who have flown thousands of miles away
to commit acts of naked and illegal aggression upon a people who have
committed no crime, but are falsely and meanly accused of WMD. The
dramatis personae in this act are living characters. On the other
hand, picture of a headless civilian arouses much less emotion than
nauseating revolt. Death is universally every day fact of life;
putting female underwear over heads of robust males, confined naked
and paraded before laughing, smoking, jeering, American girls aged 21
is not.

2.      If a judge pronounces sentence upon thief or murderer, he has to be
seen not as anti-thief or anti-murderer, but, as pro-justice, as long
as the judgment is pronounced after giving hearing to the concerned
parties and in accordance with law. I protest if those who criticize
US are labeled as anti-American. Those on the other side, including
Cynthia, have been given hearing. If they choose to keep quiet, or,
merely mumble out: 'maybe'; 'just my belief'; 'that is how I perceive
it'; 'average American is a nice guy'; 'I did not vote for bush';
'everybody is entitled to one's views', etc. etc., this cannot carry
conviction with anybody. Cynthia is not an ordinary run of the mill
young girl who has to be treated with that extra tender touch lest she
get overawed or intimidated. I am sure as an attorney arguing day in
and day out for her clients and defending even the indefensible [as we
lawyers have got to do sometimes], filing a reply would be her second
nature. If a lawyer fails to file a reply to a plaint or suit, the
judge has to proceed with the case ex-parte. The onus is on others to
refute evidence and argument by evidence and argument, rather than
impute motives of bias on the part of the other party.

MC Gupta

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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:04:55 +0530, Mean Drake  wrote:
> 
> I sometimes wonder why the image of a prisoner with underwear over his head
> arouses more sympathy from some than a movie of a civilian with no head at
> all. The US is its own country and will do what the US feels is its own
> interest not what you feel is in the best interest of the US or of humanity
> or of other countries. Bush is not entirely to blame as well. Remember 9/11
> occurred when Bush was only 7 months into office and it is Clinton who in
> his preceding 8 years at the oral....sorry oval office did nothing to curb
> the rise of growth of terrorism against them.
> 
> OK, India is not like the US....doesn't go interfere with their internal
> matters and invade countries without reason. Why then do we have people
> plotting attacks on parliament and killing thousands in Kashmir? That's
> because Islamic Terrorists will never see reason or light. Jihad must be
> done. Its what the children are taught in their religious schools
> (madrassas). And if you feel there is a gulf between the way Americans feel
> and the rest of the world feels....why not??? The rest of the world is not
> American. Americas best interests need not be their own.
> 
> I say all this not cos I am pro-american BUT because I would like to see
> things from an unbiased outsiders viewpoint.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr.M.C. Gupta
> 
> This was posted either in full or as link on nukkad itself about an
> year ago. The site gave dated and timed transcripts of actual wireless
> messages between US submarine commander and the US base at pearl
> Harbour and the US higher officials. The people at Pearl Harbour were
> intentionally kept ignorant of Japanese plans to attack, though the US
> had full and exact and advance knowledge of the attack. Just
> imagine--US knowingly sacificing its own ship/submarine and personnel
> so as to be able to blame Japan for attack and thereby get an excuse
> to drop not one but two atom bombs on it!
> 
> Fact is stranger than fiction. This could be perfect movie stuff.
> Alas! It is not. Duplicity, self centreness and selfishness and
> hypocrisy of US is unbelievable. It is true that every nation has
> right to protect its own interests. However, US thinks it has a right
> to undermine others' interests if it perceives it to be in its own
> interest. Such attitude can come only through moral bankruptsy, of
> which I do accuse [or, pity] US. Come to think of it--what morals has
> US given to the world? None. Rather, it has corrupted world morals. It
> is on the backing of US that a tiny country of 5 million [Israel] can
> dare to make a Head of state a prisoner in his own home and make a
> public declaration that it is its avowed aim to kill him. Just as the
> master vowed to capture Osama and, Andher Nagri Chaupat Raja style,
> captured saddam instead, the puppy is barking and biting the civilians
> in their own territory. Another puppy, the hero of rail and telephone
> etc. in India [in Rawat's words],  is licking the boots of the big
> brother and smelling, for him, the buried WMD [remember the British
> study, rvealing the WMD] which was mere plagiarisation of a research
> thesis written 3-4 years earlier!].
> 
> I am sorry if I sound cut up, but, I AM cut up. As doctors, both of us
> know that there is merit in shock therapy. I am trying to give such
> therapy to Cynthia, who has lived so far in a protected environment,
> which encourages the false belief that America is God's own country,
> Americans are God's own people and American policies are God's own
> policies, implemented on earth by that neo-shepherd of a bushman.
> 
> As regards hypocrisy, here is the poem that follows this very title:
> 
> 3. HYPOCRISY*--705759 -QUATRAIN--       aabb
> 
> I defend the human rights
> Let no one challenge my rights
> My wishes are but my rights
> Let others forget their rights
> 
> I defend democracy
> This is US policy
> But for countries that remain
> Dictators may, as well, reign
> 
> I defend environment
> As a holy sacrament
> To be top guzzler of oil
> Is my right, let none this spoil
> 
> I defend the equal rights
> Of Hispanics, blacks and whites
> But for going to the jail
> Blacks and Hispanics prevail
> 
> In US we must have fun
> Why ban porn and why ban gun
> Why ban these and wield the axe
> On major sources of tax?
> 
> True we are a country great
> Don't know, why people us hate
> What if I drop a few bombs
> I drop also beans and crumbs**
> 
> People of the world, know thou
> This is but to behave how
> Lord, Master, I am for you
> Forget this, and I get you.
> 
> * There is a gulf between the views regarding USA held by Americans
> and the rest of the world. This poem puts this in perspective.
> 
> **Refers to dropping of yellow food packets containing beans and bread
> in Afghanistan
> 
> MC Gupta
> 6 June 2003
> www.writing.com/authors/mcgupta44
> 
>


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