Re: [nukkad] Verdict is Yours : 118

["Dr.M.C. Gupta" <>]

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Maybe, as a remote possibility, the firmer grasp of the communists in WB
might be related to the fact of its closer geographic proximity to China and
countries with Chinese influence / ideology. After all, Bose went to Russia,
ultimately.

MCG

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On 3/19/08, vkvenugopal@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> I don't think high literacy and intellectual capabilities have
> anything to do with spread of communism in Kerala. It may be the other
> way round.
>
> During the first half of 20th Century, Kerala was perhaps the worst in
> terms of untouchability, caste discriminations etc. Swami Vivekananda
> once called Kerala a House of Mad People. It was the sustained work of
> early Communists that transformed Malayalees, at least superficially.
> The untouchables and the underprivileged were made aware of their
> rights and were organized to  fight for their rights. When the
> Communists entered electoral fray, it was this mass base that helped
> them win the first election in 1957. When they came to power in 1957,
> they set out to reform the education sector, to ensure that teachers
> are paid decent salaries etc. and those moves put Kerala firmly on the
> road to achieving near 100 percent literacy. Adoption of small family
> norms etc. were fallouts of the achievements in education sector.
>
> While commending the Early Communists for this, one should also not
> forget the enlightened attitude of the then Maharaja of Travancore,
> who was reformist enough to put education on top of his agenda.
> Travancore had a headstart over Malabar in terms of education.
>
> Communists still hold on to its base, in spite of degeneration of
> quality of its leadership. It is the Communists who set the agenda in
> Kerala Politics and Congress and others merely reacts.
>
> I have little understanding of the politics of West Bengal but from
> what I understand CPM systematically spread its tentacles in every
> village so much so that any dissenting voice is silenced promptly.
> (Nandigram violence was perhaps an attempt to make an example of
> dissenting people). Other political parties find it impossible to
> penetrate the Party villages, where the writ of the Party Boss only
> runs.  Similar experiments have been successfully completed in several
> villages in the Kannur District of Kerala.  It is only the RSS that is
> fighting the CPM hegemony in Kannur and that leads to constant clashes
> between CPM and RSS workers in Kannur. In the first week of March 7
> persons were hacked to death due to such political rivalries. The
> violence is usually less when Communists are out of power (i.e. when
> they don't control police).
>
> Though the contribution of early communists to the development of
> Kerala cannot be ignored, the present day communists are
> systematically undermining democracy. Swami Vivekananda called Kerala
> a House of Mad people on the basis of its abhorrent castiest
> practices, that description still holds good, albeit in the political
> context.
>
> I don't know how a spaniard reacts to a bull-fight but in Kerala,
> political heat is generated because there is substantial opposition to
> Communists, especially among the Muslims and Christians. Unlike West
> Bengal where Party Villages are well entrenched, in Kerala, Communists
> and anti-communists are evenly balanced. It is a small minority of
> discerning voters that votes out the incumbant Government.
>
> Keralites are Socialists at heart. They give equal chance to
> Communists and Anti-Communists to loot the State for every alternate 5
> years. That is until the Communists succeed in establishing Party
> Villages in other parts of the State. There after they all will be
> communists, the west bengal way.
>
> To answer Dr. Gupta's query, the difference may not be between the
> communists of WB and Kerala, but the educational achievements of
> Kerala. What the Communists helped to achieve, may be coming in the
> way of their converting Kerala into a collection of Party Villages
> like WB. Like the Narakasur.
>
> Venu
>
>
>
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>
> On 3/19/08, Dr.M.C. Gupta  wrote:
> >
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> > 1. Kerala and WB are at place 1 and 12 in order of literacy rates in
> India.
> > There are 10 states in between. WB is nowhere near Kerala. See
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_India
> >
> > 2. Intellectuality is not a known or defined or measurable variable
> > recognised or used in knowledge / psychology / brain related fields.
> > Comparing intellectuality of two societies may be a wild goose chase.
> >
> > M C Gupta
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> >
> > On 3/19/08, Indian Rediff  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd like to say that it is the high literacy and intellectual
> > > capabilities of both regions that makes Communism so attractive -
> > > intellectually.
> > >
> > > What they forget (being so intellectual) is that when human beings are
> > > put in charge of making these ideals work, they get reduced to their
> > > lowest common denominator - greed.
> > >
> > > Which is why democracy and capitalism are the only systems that appear
> > > to work - but sadly are still inadequate froma  poor person's POV.
> > >
> > > Of course, this is my own unintelligent POV.
> > >
> > > Sai
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dr.M.C. Gupta  wrote:
> > > >  I have always wondered what is common to Kerala and West Bengal,
> > > rendering
> > > >  them the only bastions of the Left Communist ideology in India.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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