[nukkad] Muslim countries and their theocracy

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Hi Rohit and others,

I think here we come to the basics. India is not
theocractic while Muslim countries by definition are,
and thats why we shwo what we show. We cant wax hot
and cold at the same time. If we have to lay claim to
being a secular country, we have to walk the talk.

Incidentally, on the same topic have you observed
this: in more than 10-20 films, the hero and the
heroine are shown stealing twenty glances inside a
temple or a church, in front of the altar or the
statue. Everyone giggles, and this is acecpted. Hindu
priests have been shown as Kapti even by Raj Kapoor.
No one fools around with the Muslim religion thus. All
the scenes I remember of Muslim religion displayed in
films is that of religious fervour, (I remember a
scene where a Hindu friend holds his bleeding hand
being cut by a sword over Aditya Pancholi, a muslim
whilst he is offering Namaz. 

I guess we cant complain about this depiction as well,
can we?

Rajababu



--- Rohit Mansukhlal  wrote:

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> let us look at the problem from the other end. If
> nothing is objectionable
> in the movie
> what could be the reason behind two governments
> putting a ban on its
> screening ?
> The only point I can think of is they do not wish to
> see a Hindu woman
> husbanded by
> a Muslim ruler*. This reason alone for the ban may
> sound very funny and
> defying sense,
> but then try to screen a film in which a muslim
> woman is married to a Hindu
> man in any
> Muslim country, who are otherwise VERY CRAZY about
> Indian cinema. When
> viewed
> from this natural reaction angle, the issue demands
> a fresh consideration
> into.
> More, if any, after seeing the film.
> 
> Rohit Zaveri
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> * It may be noted that throughout the period of
> Muslim rule in India, the
> Hindu rulers, chieftains were forced to offer their
> sisters, daughters to
> Muslim Sultans, a price they had to pay to buy
> peace.
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> On 3/23/08, Dr.M.C. Gupta  wrote:
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> > I have seen the new movie [and the old one also].
> The new one is full of
> > respect for Jodha. It brings out a unique strength
> of character in her,
> > hithertofore not mentioned in history books. There
> is not the slightest
> > disrespect to her. And, NONE has been alleged by
> the protesters.
> >
> > Literacy level today is about 66%. Less that one
> fourth would mean less
> > than 16%. Level 47 years ago was about 40%.
> >
> > If the government starts playing to gallery in a
> show where the gallery
> > show-pieces are those minority of the population
> who are good for nothing
> > do-littles out to make a fast buck in the name of
> minority groups /
> > religion, and the government looks the other way
> when law is being broken
> > impudently, or even sides with the mob, it is an
> unfortunate slide
> > back towards a state of lawless society, which
> cannot be countered
> > by manouevering how to count 10.
> >
> > The first step to solve a problem is to recognize
> the existence of the
> > problem. Those who live in a mode of denial deny
> much to themselves and
> > their country.
> >
> > M C Gupta
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> > On 3/23/08, Rohit Mansukhlal  wrote:
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> > > On 3/23/08, Dr.M.C. Gupta  wrote:
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> > > > As a matter of fact, it was about 47 years ago
> that Mughaleazam showed
> > > > Jodha
> > > > Bai as Akbar's wife and no Rajput protested.
> > > >
> > > > MCG
> > > >
> > > > =============================================
> > > > Literacy, education and awakening level 47
> years ago was not even one
> > > > fourth of
> > >
> > >   what it is today, particularly the Rajput
> samaj. This is not to take
> > > side
> > > with the rioters
> > >   but the point is the director may have
> projected Jodhabai in a poor
> > > state, and I must
> > > say I haven't seen the film yet. But I have seen
> the movie Mogal-E-Azam,
> > > more than
> > > once and I quite remember Kamal Amrohi had given
> respectful role to
> > Jodha.
> > > If Rajputs
> > > are out to deny that Jodha was never Jalaluddin
> Mohammed Akbar's wife,
> > > then
> > > that's
> > > pure rubbish.
> > > Anyway, if from such and other like incidents if
> anyone is trying to
> > infer
> > > that the country
> > > is rolling backwards, he is doing the mistake of
> his lifetime. Progress
> > of
> > > 10 steps forward anywhere, as in India, doesn't
> occur in 10 str have the
> > > aight linear steps, it always happens like 12
> steps forward and 2 steps
> > > backwards.
> > > Only 7 years ago, the USA did not have the
> draconian, barbarian system
> > of
> > > finger printing
> > > every prospective tourist and immigrants. Should
> this mean the US is
> > > headfing towards
> > > utter darkness ?? Maloy sent this link only to
> malign India's onward
> > march
> > > by citing few
> > > odd incidents. Hence my tution to him in simple
> arithmatic : 10 = 12 -
> > 2.
> > > Why take such stray incidents all that seriously
> and draw up vital
> > > conclusions, leading to
> > > falacy.
> > > And if old movie Mughal-E-Azam has rerun in
> Rajasthan, it will still
> > draw
> > > full house crowd !!
> > > Depends how Jodha is projected in
> > >
>
Jodha-Akbar...........................................................
> > >
> > > Rohit Zaveri.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > serenity
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> > Prof. M C Gupta
> > MD (Medicine), MPH,  LL.M.,
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Regards,
Rajababu, Nivraaj Consultants
rajababu_75@yahoo.com


      
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