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---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you drink and drive, you are a bloody idiot. - Aussie ad campaign ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- KABIR OUTDATED It is time to put Kabir away. It is time to replace his "Hari, Guru, Nirbandh, Ram" with the personal Oversoul and read the verse in that way. In his time, in the slow scale of Realization, it was valid to center around the Guru rather than God, but in this time, it is time to move on and further center around the center within. Even then, he saw some shift himself and spoke to that effect: maya maha thagni ham jani trigun phans liye kar dole, bole madhur bani Keshav ke Kamla huve baithe, Shiv ke bhavan Bhavani Panda ke murati huve baithi, tirath me pani. Here he is uncertain as to the extent maya represents godheads, and doubts its effect, or one's interpretation of what one sees, or thinks one sees. Maya then comes across as Kamla to Keshav, Bhavani to Shiv, a murat to Pandava or Pande or pandit, and in terms of this discussion, godhead or guru, all the while it being the same matter, which resides in you. In another verse he is far more explicit, though himself falling short of recognizing himself as Himself, just as you are You. moko kahan dhunde bande, mai to tere paas me na mei bakri na mei bhedi na mei churi gandas mei [ ... ] mei to rahun sahar ke bahar, meri puri mavas mei kahe Kabir suno bhai sadho, sab sanso ki sans mei. Sans here is nafas, prana, or more intimately and picturesquely, the Oversoul. Those who move centerward, find what they have to find. Those who remain in the periphery, remain peripheral. The choice is one's own, just as the millstone around the neck. Arya. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To join/leave, use the form at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/#options This list is archived at: http://www.mumbai-central.com/nukkad/archive.html
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